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On Novell Open Audio

Submitted by David on 30 August 2006 - 10:49am
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I was worried when I first heard about Novell Open Audio because based on their past performances I felt there was a real danger Novell would goof this up and produce a series of gutless, infomercial-type marketing clips complete with poorly written scripts about boring products that people do not care about. However I really liked the concept as Novell in general is just terrible at getting any type of message across. Just take a look at a few of their product pages and ask yourself what exactly is Novell trying to communicate about these products based solely on the information presented onscreen (and what is the deal with paragraphed sized hyperlinks?).

With this in mind the first show (or two) were a little sketchy. It did sound like there was a subtle script at play in the first few interviews. Ted Haeger (the show lead) seemed to know a little too much about the products in question and the topics of conversation appeared to lead a little too nicely from one to the next. What kept me listening however was the topics covered, they were genuinely interesting and covered the broad range of Novell’s product line from Suse to Groupwise.

Over time Ted has gained in confidence (it seems like he has left scripts behind) and the inclusion of co-host Erin Quill has also added a degree of dynamism to the podcast. As the shows have progressed I’ve also begun to realise Ted knows a lot more about the products and topics in question than your casual podcast host thanks to his prior work at Novell. The people interviewed have been also been great. I could honesty listen to Jeremy Alison bash Microsoft all day and I just wish they didn’t have to censor his language. What has also added to the shows ‘street-cred’ has been Ted’s involvement in other open-source activities like GUADEC and LugRadio. This has helped transform the podcaster’s image from potential corporate puppet to slightly alcoholic jet-setter (which deep down we all want to be).

One thing that I would really like to hear is more aggression (some would say crankiness) from Ted or someone else as the audio paints an altogether too rosy image of Novell and its products. Let’s be honest, this is a company that has gone from monopoly to minority in the server business and has made making stupid decisions that ruin a great product into an art-form.
Hearing from Jeremy Allison and Nat Friedman about Samba/desktop Linux is great but it is only half the story. The law of averages (and past business decisions) implies there are some real idiots working within the company and I would not mind hearing from them too, even if it was the sound of silence followed by some uncomfortable microphone dribbling.

Also what about asking some more prickly questions like:

  1. Why is it that years after Novell’s purchase of Suse managing Linux/Samba in eDirectory/iManager so painful? (and don’t say OES fixes this, it only goes half way)
  2. What is the future of Border Manager and why has it taken so long for the Border Manager team to get their act together and properly support Linux?
  3. Why does it seem like Yast development has crawled to a halt? It is the one feature that draws me to server-grade Suse yet it hasn’t undergone significant change for years.
  4. When Novell ‘open sources’ a project is that their P.R. friendly way of giving it the kiss of death? Both Hula and iFolder have been ‘open sourced’ and both projects seem to be in the process of dying on Novell’s over-stretched vines (just checkout their mailing lists and home-pages to see what I mean).
  5. I am all for Novell open-sourcing products but why not serious ones like eDirectory, Groupwise and Netware? (An O/S Netware would make a fantastic NAS operating system)

Novell Open Audio is a great podcast to listen to if you are even slightly interested in corporate Linux and/or Novell. It would help if a cranky, Dvorak-like character would stick his head in once and a while just to stir up the beehive. Apart from this Ted and his crew seem to be doing a good job of keeping the podcast on an even keel and clear of the washed out and confused messages that seem to surround the rest of Novell’s corporate communications.

UPDATE: I have been told by a friend that Novell actually used to sell Netware NAS software called NetDevice. There is only passing mention on it on the Novell website. There is a few articles on the Web but it looks like it either tanked or was quickly pulled (or both). Looking at the quoted price in this article my guess is they did not sell many copies.

 

Novell NetDevice

Great post. I am going to re-subscribe to the podcast. It sounds like it has improved over the past few months. Anyway, concerning NetDevice, I don't remember the specifics but I know we bought this product and wasted a good two weeks trying to implement it with the help of Novell support. It was a joke. You had to do some really crazy stuff with the schema to integrate it. I wish I could remember the exact process. Anyway, I was recently cleaning off my shelves and I came across the media for it. After having a quick chuckle with my coworkers about it I tossed it in the rubbish.

RE: NetDevice

Well I'm glad I've gained Ted another listener (even if it is for one episode). Yeah it really annoys me when applications/hardware require extensive schema changes in order to work. The thing I find really painful is the process of extending the schema (or even worse bugfixing an error during an extension), considering many relatively straightforward tasks require the schema to be extended the process by which it is done is not user-friendly. Personally I like OpenLDAP's manner of handling schema extensions as separate files with a configuration parameter to load the file. The limitation of this approach is that it requires an LDAP reboot but this could be easily fixed with a dynamic loader.

Hehehe. As usual, David

Hehehe. As usual, David mixes makes some valid points with a huge dollop of tact... Still, he's makes a good point about Novell's marketting department (who should be taken outside and humanely shot) - whoops did I just say that? Sorry, just kidding... well kinda.